“Witness Unto Me” blog gathered evidence of Caner’s biography not matching up to his own on the Liberty site. Once this information was released earlier in the year, his bio was taken down and updated. His bio had included the claim that Caner came to the US in 1979 ( which reads, “… homeLIFE Ergun was born in Stockholm, Sweden to turkish parents and in 1979 immigrated
to the United States with his parents, grandmother, and two brothers. … “) disappeared from the Liberty website. It brought up false claims about his past, being trained as a jihadist, living in Turkey, majority Muslim countries.
They’ve got hold of his parent’s separation agreement, documents not using his Muslim name, and his locations when he was young (proclaiming he grew up in Muslim nations but shown he didn’t). The blog claims Caner’s excerpts don’t match up with the evidence.
Here’s a video Caner claiming debating certain Muslims:
Dr. James White of Alpha and Omega Ministries has debated Shabir Ally on four occasions. After being contacted by White, Mr. Ally says he has never debated Caner.
Some of these bloggers come from the James White and Calvinist camp, which White wanted to debate Caner a couple of years ago but didn’t go through.
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I posted on this 12/08/09. I realize people have caught on to this story before then, but out of the blogs, you should list them somewhere… the “blog” genesis of this story would be fascinating:
http://religiopoliticaltalk.blogspot.com/2009/1…
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The last paragraph in this post sounds like a snarky dig against James White: “Some of these bloggers come from the James White and Calvinist camp, which White wanted to debate Caner a couple of years ago but didn’t go through.” I hope you guys were not suggesting that Dr. White did not want to go through with the debates against Dr. Caner, because that is the furthest thing from the truth.
The fact of the matter is that Dr. Caner claimed to do exactly the same thing that Dr. White does, and nothing has been verified to substantiate Dr. Caner's claims that he has formally debated anyone – let alone Shabir Ally.
no, we weren't suggesting White didn't want to go through with it. We don't know what exactly happened.
sleon, thanx for clearing that up – seriously.
Sleon, you can read the documented evidence of what EXACTLY happened leading up to the failed debate. The Caner brothers bailed, plain and simple. http://www.aomin.org and search canner debate. Plenty of reading and podcasts. The short of it is Caner tried to change the debate times (from 3 hours to two hours) and then the topic. In one of his emails to White he claimed over 60 debates. Yet he can provide no evidence on his own site of even one except an email exchange. I guess Ergun Michael Caner thinks that a debate is pretty much any conversation. Perhaps with a middle eastern cab driver in New York counts?